Downtown Luxury 'Perfect for Couples' Weekly/Monthly Rates, Parking, Patio, Pets
Casita Cynthia is a beautiful luxury condominium in the heart of Santa Fe, at the elegant El Corazon de Santa Fe condominium complex. It is one of the most desirable units in one of the most desirable properties in Santa Fe, on the ground floor, with views of the mountains and the historic East Side from the adobe-wall-enclosed patio. It truly is a short, easy walk to the Plaza and to the O'Keeffe Museum (3-4 blocks, depending on how you count, five minutes, on safe sidewalks). Indian Market, Spanish Market and the Santa Fe Convention Center are all just down the block. The location is ideal.
RATE NOTES: I have daily rates and discounted weekly and monthly rates, which vary with the seasons. If you are interested in a longer period than one month, please contact me for a quote.
NO CLEANING FEE. Cleaning is included in your rental.
CALENDAR NOTES: I keep my calendar up to date, so that if my calendar shows availability, the condo should be available. I will respond quickly to questions about availability. Feel free to call, e-mail, or text any time.
MASTER BEDROOM: The master bedroom has a quality king sized bed and luxury linens. The master bath has dual sinks, granite counter tops, and a large slate & marble-tiled walk-in shower. French doors open onto the private adobe-walled patio from the master bedroom.
STUDY/GUEST ROOM: The study has a full-size sleeper sofa (very high end, with memory foam mattress: truly extremely comfortable). This room could accommodate a visitor or a third guest during your stay, but it is tight when used as a bedroom--when the sofa is opened there is not a lot of extra room to move around. The bathroom adjacent to the study has a single sink and a slate-tiled shower. There is a one-time $50 fee for a third guest.
The study has a desk and ergonomic work chair.
NOTE: the condo is officially a two-bedroom unit, was designed and is licensed by the city as such, with a maximum of 4 guests. Its square footage and layout are similar to that of other units in the El Corazon complex that are listed as two-bedroom units. Because the second bedroom is small, I choose to use it as a study/guest room, so that it can accommodate remote workers who need a quiet space, desk, and comfortable chair, as well as a third guest when needed.
KITCHEN: The kitchen has granite counter tops and gourmet cooking equipment. There are everyday dishes and fancy china for your special occasions.
LAUNDRY: The laundry area includes a washer and dryer. Ironing board, iron, and detergent.
LIVING ROOM: The living room includes a down-filled sofa, "smart TV," and gas-fired kiva fireplace. French doors open onto the private patio. An authentic Knoll womb chair provides the ultimate in comfortable seating.
DINING AREA: The dining area is between the kitchen and the living room, with an antique Spanish Colonial dining table, and seating for six. The antique country French cupboard holds fancy china and glassware.
PATIO: The adobe-walled private patio is shady, with professionally maintained gardens and a dining table.
AMENITIES AND DECOR: There are slate floors with radiant heating throughout the home. The gas kiva fireplace in the living room turns on instantly. There is air conditioning for summer. I am retired from the New Mexico Department of Cultural Affairs, in the extensive state museum system, and the condo is furnished with much locally-made furniture and southwestern art.
FREE UNDERGROUND PARKING: The condo comes with its own parking space in the secure underground parking lot on the premises. Parking in central Santa Fe can be tight (or near-impossible during Indian and Spanish Market) so this space is a real plus.
EXERCISE ROOM: There is an exercise room on the premises. There is no swimming pool, but Santa Fe has a several excellent community pools, with fees of a few dollars. The Fort Marcy pool is within walking distance, and the Genoveva Chavez Center, with a spectacular large pool, is a 10-minute drive away.
CONDO LAYOUT: The condo is ideal for a single person or couple, and can easily accommodate an additional guest during a stay. It would be tight for two couples; the couple in the smaller room would envy the couple in the master bedroom. It works for parents and a teen or adult son or daughter, but it is not suitable for a family that includes small children: there is not much space for play and there is some not-childproof art and furniture.
If you have questions about whether or not the condo will work for your party, don't hesitate to ask and I'll do my best to answer you honestly and right away.
ACCESSIBILITY: There is an elevator from the underground parking area to the condo complex courtyard, and the unit is a short walk along safe paths from the elevator. There are two short steps (about 4") from the sidewalk to the front door), but otherwise the home is all level and on the ground floor. There are no steps out to the patio, and there is a back gate that opens onto the Grant Street sidewalk from the patio without steps, however there is no parking on Grant Street, and the patio door must be locked from the inside, so this no-steps access is not a true entrance and exit. Hence, the home is very comfortable, easy, and safe for anyone with mobility issues, but not truly ADA accessible. I'm happy to answer any questions about accessibility.
LGBTQIA travellers welcome.
LONG TERM RENTALS: I welcome inquiries from legislators, the film industry, house-hunters, and others seeking long term rentals. For long term rentals, please contact me with your desired dates and I will send you a quote. Month-long rentals include a housekeeping visit mid-month. Additional housekeeping can be arranged.
Rentals longer than one month may have a different deposit and payment schedule, to be discussed during booking.
If you are interested in a month-long rental that spans 2 different months, or anything else that doesn't seem to fit my rate schedule, just ask for quote, and I will try to accommodate your plans.
CANCELLATION POLICY: 50% of your payment is due upon booking and 50% is due 30 days before arrival. Cancellations more than 30 days before check-in date will receive a full refund. Cancellations 14 to 30 days before check-in, will receive a 50% refund. Cancellations less than 14 days before arrival will only be refunded to the extent that I am able to re-rent and recoup.
TAXES AND FEES: Your quote will show 8.475% New Mexico Gross Receipts Tax and 7% City of Santa Fe Lodger's Tax.
NO CLEANING FEE. Cleaning is included.
Pet Fee: $100 (one-time fee, not daily, dogs only), with pet agreement.
Third Guest Fee: $50 (one-time fee; not daily).
Service Fee: In February 2016, HomeAway/VRBO implemented a service fee, which is a percentage of the rental payment and is imposed and retained by the company. To offset the cost of this fee to travellers, I eliminated my exit cleaning fee.
HOLD POLICY: I can put a 24-hour hold on a reservation to allow time to make airline reservations.
PRE-ARRIVAL INFO & ACCESS TO THE CONDO: Upon request or upon booking, I will send you detailed info about the condo and the neighborhood. Upon booking I will send you access codes and entry information for the condo and the parking garage. I'm always available to answer questions about the condo, Santa Fe, and New Mexico travel.
CHECK-IN time is 5pm. CHECK-OUT time is 10am. We accommodate requests for early check-in and late check-out when we can.
SPECIAL REQUESTS: We leave a welcome basket of snacks and New Mexico wine. If you have any special needs or requests, please let me know and we will try to accommodate you.
NO SMOKING: No smoking in the condo, patio, or condo complex.
CASITA CYNTHIA IS INSPECTED AND LICENSED BY CITY OF SANTA FE, permit 157071.
Servicios de la propiedad
Ski
Cerca de las pistas de ski
Snowboard en los alrededores
Alberca/spa
Alberca compartida
Internet
Disponible en el condominio: wifi gratis
Estacionamiento y transporte
No se requiere auto
Estacionamiento con acceso para silla de ruedas y camionetas disponible
Las opciones de estacionamiento en la propiedad incluyen un garaje
Cocina
Cafetera y tetera
Especias
Horno
Lavavajillas
Licuadora
Máquina de hielo
Microondas
Molino de café
Parrilla de estufa
Refrigerador
Tetera eléctrica
Toallas de papel
Tostadora
Vajilla y utensilios de cocina
Comidas
Mesas
Habitaciones
Habitación
Se proporcionan sábanas
Sofá cama
Baño
Jabón
Papel de baño
Regadera
Se ofrecen toallas
Secadora de cabello
Shampoo
Áreas comunes para sentarse
Chimenea
Mesa
Sala de estar
Entretenimiento
Biblioteca musical
Estéreo
Libros
Smart TV con canales de cable/satelitales
Espacios exteriores
Fogata
Jardín
Patio
Patio cercado
Lavandería
Lavadora y secadora
Lavandería
Espacios de trabajo
Escritorio
Oficina
Silla de escritorio
Para tu comodidad
Aire acondicionado
Calefacción
Mascotas
Se aceptan mascotas
Solo se aceptan perros
2 mascotas en total
Facilidades de acceso
Si tienes necesidades de acceso especial, comunícate con la propiedad utilizando los datos que figuran en la confirmación de la reservación.
Alfombra delgada en las áreas comunes
Elevador
Entrada con 3 escalones
Espacios alfombrados en las áreas comunes
Estacionamiento con acceso para silla de ruedas
Estacionamiento para vans con acceso para silla de ruedas
Lugar de estacionamiento para personas con discapacidad
Piso de azulejo en las áreas comunes
Piso liso en las áreas comunes
Propiedad de un solo nivel
No se permite fumar en la propiedad
Nota del anfitrión: Absolutely no smoking, please.
Servicios e instalaciones
Plancha y tabla de planchar
Servicio de limpieza previa solicitud
Teléfono
Aspectos destacados de la ubicación
Cerca de un hospital
Cerca de un spa de salud/belleza
En el centro de la ciudad
En la montaña
Actividades
Equipo para deportes de invierno
Gimnasio
Alpinismo en los alrededores
Casino en los alrededores
Caza deportiva en los alrededores
Ciclismo de montaña en los alrededores
Escalada en roca en los alrededores
Golf en los alrededores
Observación de aves en los alrededores
Paseos a caballo en los alrededores
Pesca en los alrededores
Rafting en los alrededores
Senderos para caminar o andar en bicicleta en los alrededores
Tours ecológicos en los alrededores
Tours por bodegas de vino en los alrededores
Características de seguridad
Detector de monóxido de carbono (el anfitrión indicó que la propiedad cuenta con un detector de monóxido de carbono)
Detector de humo (el anfitrión indicó que la propiedad cuenta con un detector de humo)
Recibirás un correo electrónico del anfitrión con las instrucciones para hacer el check-in y el check-out.
La información proporcionada por la propiedad podría estar traducida con herramientas de traducción automática.
Instrucciones de check-out
El anfitrión exige que realices lo siguiente antes del check-out:
Cargar y encender el lavavajillas
Quitar los artículos personales
Apagar las luces, cerrar las puertas y devolver las llaves
Si no sigues todas estas instrucciones, podrías recibir una opinión negativa por parte del anfitrión.
Mascotas
Se aceptan mascotas
Se aceptan animales de servicio (sin cargos)
Solo se aceptan perros
2 en total
Aplican restricciones: para obtener más información, comunícate con la propiedad al número que aparece en la confirmación de la reservación.
Nota del anfitrión: Good dogs welcome with agreement & $100 fee;.
Niños y camas adicionales
Esta propiedad no hospeda a menores.
Nota del anfitrión: Children 12 and up only.
Eventos
No se permiten eventos
Permission required for more than 6 people.
Fumar
No se permite fumar
Absolutely no smoking, please.
Información importante
Información importante
Podría aplicarse un cargo por persona extra, que varía según la política de la propiedad
Es posible que debas presentar una identificación oficial con fotografía y una tarjeta de crédito, una tarjeta de débito o hacer un depósito en efectivo en el check-in para cubrir cualquier gasto imprevisto
Las solicitudes especiales no se pueden garantizar. Están sujetas a disponibilidad al momento del check-in y pueden tener un costo extra
No se permiten fiestas ni eventos de grupos
Nota del anfitrión: Permission required for more than 6 people.
Ideal para estancias largas
El anfitrión indicó que hay un detector de monóxido de carbono en la propiedad
El anfitrión indicó que hay un detector de humo en la propiedad
El equipamiento de seguridad de esta propiedad incluye extintor de incendios, botiquín de primeros auxilios y cerradura de alta seguridad
Esta propiedad tiene espacios al aire libre, como balcones, patios y terrazas, que podrían no ser adecuados para niños; en caso de inquietudes, recomendamos que te comuniques con la propiedad antes de tu llegada para confirmar que puedas hospedarte en una habitación que se ajuste a tus necesidades.
Vrbo, nuestro sitio asociado, administra este hospedaje. Recibirás un correo suyo con un enlace a tu cuenta de Vrbo, donde podrás cambiar o cancelar tu reservación.
Número de registro de propiedad: 157071
Avisos importantes
No se necesita un auto para acceder a este hospedaje.
Información de la zona
este condominio se encuentra en la montaña, en el área de Centro de Santa Fe en Santa Fe. Charlotte Jackson Fine Art y Georgia O'Keefe Museum son lugares culturales destacados, y algunos de los puntos de interés del área incluyen Lensic Theater y SITE Santa Fe. También vale la pena conocer Center for Contemporary Arts y Santa Fe Children's Museum. En la zona, puedes practicar actividades como rafting y pesca, o disfrutar del aire libre mientras haces tours de cacería y senderismo. Visita nuestra guía de Santa Fe
Sí, los perros pueden quedarse en esta propiedad (límite de 2). Es posible que apliquen restricciones. Comunícate con la propiedad para conocer más detalles.
¿Cuánto cuesta el estacionamiento en Downtown Luxury 'Perfect for Couples' Weekly/Monthly Rates, Parking, Patio, Pets?
Hay estacionamiento disponible en la propiedad.
¿A qué hora es el check-in en Downtown Luxury 'Perfect for Couples' Weekly/Monthly Rates, Parking, Patio, Pets?
Hora de inicio de check-in: 17:00.
¿A qué hora es el check-out en Downtown Luxury 'Perfect for Couples' Weekly/Monthly Rates, Parking, Patio, Pets?
El check-out es a las 10:00.
¿Dónde se encuentra Downtown Luxury 'Perfect for Couples' Weekly/Monthly Rates, Parking, Patio, Pets?
Este condominio se encuentra en Centro de Santa Fe, a 10 minutos a pie de Charlotte Jackson Fine Art y Santa Fe Plaza. Georgia O'Keefe Museum y New Mexico Museum of Art también se encuentran a 5 minutos. Terminal de tren de Santa Fe se encuentra a 15 min caminando.
Opiniones de Downtown Luxury 'Perfect for Couples' Weekly/Monthly Rates, Parking, Patio, Pets
Opiniones
Excepcional
Todas las opiniones que se muestran provienen de experiencias de huéspedes reales. Solo las personas que han reservado un hospedaje con nosotros pueden enviar su opinión. Verificamos las opiniones con base en nuestras pautas y las publicamos todas, ya sean positivas o negativas.
Puntuación de 10, es decir, Excelente. Basada en 159 de 162 opiniones
10 - Excelente
159
Puntuación de 8, es decir, Bueno. Basada en 3 de 162 opiniones
8 - Bueno
3
Puntuación de 6, es decir, Aceptable. Basada en 0 de 162 opiniones
6 - Aceptable
0
Puntuación de 4, es decir, Malo. Basada en 0 de 162 opiniones
4 - Malo
0
Puntuación de 2, es decir, Terrible. Basada en 0 de 162 opiniones
2 - Terrible
0
10
Limpieza
10
Ubicación
10
Condiciones de la propiedad
Opiniones
Opinión verificada
10/10 Excelente
Jeremy S.
18 ene. 2026
Le gustó: Limpieza, check-in, comunicación, ubicación y veracidad del anuncio
Great location and condo!
Jeremy S.
Se hospedó 6 noches en diciembre de 2025
Opinión verificada
10/10 Excelente
Amy B.
23 sept. 2025
Le gustó: Limpieza, check-in, comunicación, ubicación y veracidad del anuncio
Great place. Right off the main plaza.
Amy B.
Se hospedó 3 noches en septiembre de 2025
Opinión verificada
10/10 Excelente
Cliente verificado
20 may. 2025
Le gustó: Limpieza, check-in, comunicación, ubicación y veracidad del anuncio
Superb in all Respects
Excellent all around experience, wonderful amenities, great communications with manager, ideal location. A very comfortable stay.
Cliente verificado
Se hospedó 14 noches en mayo de 2025
Opinión verificada
10/10 Excelente
Michael S.
17 sept. 2025
Le gustó: Limpieza, check-in, comunicación, ubicación y veracidad del anuncio
The location is a short walk from the Plaza and many restaurants and museums, easy to access and secure in a well maintained condominium project. We were quite comfortable during our week long visit and will stay here again.
Michael S.
Se hospedó 7 noches en septiembre de 2025
Opinión verificada
10/10 Excelente
Lee C.
1 dic. 2025
Le gustó: Limpieza, check-in, comunicación, ubicación y veracidad del anuncio
Excellent property with easy access to the historic center of Santa Fe. The condo has everything that you need, and Cynthia is a gracious and attentive host. Highly recommended.
Lee C.
Se hospedó 6 noches en noviembre de 2025
Opinión verificada
10/10 Excelente
Donna W.
14 mar. 2024
Le gustó: Limpieza, check-in, comunicación, ubicación y veracidad del anuncio
Great place!
Beautiful space, close to restaurants, museums, everything!
Donna W.
Se hospedó 4 noches en marzo de 2024
Opinión verificada
10/10 Excelente
Peter W.
6 may. 2023
Le gustó: Limpieza, check-in, comunicación, ubicación y veracidad del anuncio
Santa Fe visit
Great place to stay and perfect location. Perfect location and condo owner assistance for local information etc.
Peter W.
Se hospedó 5 noches en abril de 2023
Opinión verificada
10/10 Excelente
susan g.
1 mar. 2023
Le gustó: Limpieza, check-in, comunicación, ubicación y veracidad del anuncio
Very enjoyable
Very convenient, near Plaza, the Shed, the Plaza Cafe.
susan g.
Se hospedó 7 noches en febrero de 2023
Opinión verificada
10/10 Excelente
Mary P.
8 oct. 2024
Le gustó: Limpieza, check-in, comunicación, ubicación y veracidad del anuncio
Beautiful property in every way!
The owners thought of every detail. Good location for going to the museum and theater. Plus great restaurants and shopping are nearby!
Mary P.
Se hospedó 7 noches en octubre de 2024
Opinión verificada
8/10 Buena
lynne w.
10 ago. 2025
Le gustó: Limpieza, check-in, comunicación, ubicación y veracidad del anuncio
Old Town Condo
Nice location with private underground parking. Helpful communication with host and excellent instructions for accessing the parking and the condo. The condo complex is very private and secure yet within walking distance of museums, stores, restaurants, and the Plaza. Really enjoyed visiting Santa Fe and the surrounding areas!
lynne w.
Se hospedó 7 noches en julio de 2025
Opinión verificada
10/10 Excelente
Jesse M.
17 jun. 2025
Le gustó: Limpieza, check-in, comunicación, ubicación y veracidad del anuncio
Great getaway
Property is neat and well cared for. Apartment had all we needed and was ideal location for exploring Santa Fe. We used the gym almost daily and the staff was responsive.Host was in excellent contact and was very good about ensuring we got our value from the stay.
Jesse M.
Se hospedó 5 noches en junio de 2025
Opinión verificada
10/10 Excelente
Jason H.
5 ene. 2024
Le gustó: Limpieza, check-in, comunicación, ubicación y veracidad del anuncio
Wonderful Place
The place is beautiful and exactly as described. Everything we needed was on the property. It is in a great location with easy walking distance to all kinds of shopping and dining options.
Jason H.
Se hospedó 7 noches en diciembre de 2023
Opinión verificada
10/10 Excelente
Eileen P.
11 sept. 2024
Le gustó: Limpieza, check-in, comunicación, ubicación y veracidad del anuncio
Perfect stay
Condo was in an ideal location. We were able to walk to restaurants, museums and the square. Very clean and comfortable, the hosts had everything a guest could need. Wonderful property!
Eileen P.
Se hospedó 5 noches en septiembre de 2024
Opinión verificada
10/10 Excelente
Gary W.
25 feb. 2025
Le gustó: Limpieza, check-in, comunicación, ubicación y veracidad del anuncio
Winter stay
Very nice and quiet stay. Was hoping for snow but unfortunately nice and warm weather. As usual loved the art
Gary W.
Se hospedó 7 noches en febrero de 2025
Opinión verificada
10/10 Excelente
Andrea B.
7 abr. 2025
Le gustó: Limpieza, check-in, comunicación, ubicación y veracidad del anuncio
Truly wonderful VRBO experience
We loved everything about this stay and the condo. It is perfectly located within walking distance of all of the wonderful places in downtown Santa Fe. The condo so comfortable and lovely and the host is outstanding. She responded to our every question and went above and beyond to make our stay wonderful. We give this VRBO stay the highest possible recommendation.
Andrea B.
Se hospedó 5 noches en marzo de 2025
Opinión verificada
10/10 Excelente
Cliente verificado
2 sept. 2023
Le gustó: Limpieza, check-in, comunicación, ubicación y veracidad del anuncio
Santa Fe Getaway
This is a very nice property that is a short walking distance to the Plaza. The host is exceptional and very responsive to all the questions I had.
Cliente verificado
Se hospedó 5 noches en agosto de 2023
Opinión verificada
10/10 Excelente
Gary W.
9 mar. 2024
Le gustó: Limpieza, check-in, comunicación, ubicación y veracidad del anuncio
Winter retreat
We have stayed several times and love the condo. Central to the plaza just blocks away. We take our small dog and she loves it. Great get away! We got up to Taos ski valley for a day and loved the snow.
Gary W.
Se hospedó 14 noches en febrero de 2024
Opinión verificada
10/10 Excelente
Trina R.
7 sept. 2024
Le gustó: Limpieza, check-in, comunicación, ubicación y veracidad del anuncio
Great condo in a great location
Condo is in a quiet part near historic Santa Fe. Within walking distance to so much. Hosts were great. Nice touches made you feel right at home. Would definitely stay again.
Trina R.
Se hospedó 3 noches en agosto de 2024
Opinión verificada
8/10 Buena
David R.
20 jul. 2025
Le gustó: Limpieza, check-in, comunicación, ubicación y veracidad del anuncio
Well-located, well-appointed property with adequate patio, two bathrooms a plus, small kitchen with limited counter space but modern appliances. Drawbacks are lack of sunlight and poor bedside reading lamps.Host supplied considerable information, a bottle of wine and a few bottles of beer among other welcoming provisions. Excellent amenities and stylish furnishings and artwork.
David R.
Se hospedó 7 noches en julio de 2025
Opinión verificada
10/10 Excelente
David H.
8 ago. 2022
Le gustó: Limpieza, check-in, comunicación, ubicación y veracidad del anuncio
Yet another wonderful stay!
Casa Cynthia has become our favorite place to stay while vacationing in Santa Fe. It’s like having a home away from home. Everything’s just perfect. We’ll be returning soon!
David H.
Se hospedó 7 noches en abril de 2022
Opinión verificada
10/10 Excelente
Stan B.
18 nov. 2023
Le gustó: Limpieza, check-in, comunicación, ubicación y veracidad del anuncio
Perfect Place
What a perfect location, perfect property and the host was so very helpful. We will be back!!
Stan B.
Se hospedó 3 noches en noviembre de 2023
Opinión verificada
10/10 Excelente
Lisa H.
6 sept. 2025
Le gustó: Limpieza, check-in, comunicación, ubicación y veracidad del anuncio
What a fantastic stay in Santa Fe at Casita Cynthia! The total experience was perfect! Starting with the beautiful first floor condo with its private courtyard/patio, the wonderful and thoughtful welcome basket/gift, and perfect location, especially if spending time on the great plaza area! Just a 5 minute/two block walk away to great dining, shopping, art and exploring! The beds were comfy and the condo was very room and clean! Everything we needed was at our fingertips! Thanks for a great stay! We highly recommend!
Lisa H.
Se hospedó 2 noches en septiembre de 2025
Opinión verificada
10/10 Excelente
William B.
16 oct. 2024
Le gustó: Limpieza, check-in, comunicación, ubicación y veracidad del anuncio
Southwestern Charm and Great Amenities
Clean and comfortable condo with interesting regional decor and a delightful welcome basket. The owner provided exceptional service and wonderful recommendations. The cozy enclosed courtyard is perfect for relaxing, enjoying the complementary bottle of wine and playing with your pup. Several excellent restaurants are within walking distance and are dog friendly.
William B.
Se hospedó 7 noches en octubre de 2024
Opinión verificada
10/10 Excelente
Michael F.
14 ago. 2024
Le gustó: Limpieza, check-in, comunicación, ubicación y veracidad del anuncio
Best ever rental experience!
This property is just as advertised. Very clean, very well furnished and comfortable. The kitchen was as well appointed as our’s at home. The bed and bedding were very comfortable and made for a great night’s sleep. The property seemed secure and quiet. And it is a short walk to food and attractions.
We will definitely rent again!
Michael F.
Se hospedó 5 noches en agosto de 2024
Opinión verificada
10/10 Excelente
jackie l.
7 sept. 2023
Le gustó: Limpieza, check-in, comunicación, ubicación y veracidad del anuncio
Great Location
The property was located very close to Santa Fe Plaza. We loved that we could leave the car parked and walk everywhere. The condo had everything you could want or need provided. We had an amazing vacation and would not hesitate to book with Cynthia when we visit, again.